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Queen 501 split at Humber Loop ‘brutal’ in evening rush: rider

New 10-minute service frequency standard on 501 necessitates route split: TTC

Etobicoke GuardianBy Tamara Shephard

The TTC increased service daily on Toronto’s iconic 501 Queen streetcar line to every 10 minutes or less all day effective this month, is welcome news to some south Etobicoke riders who reported wait times of up to 45 minutes in the past. But the TTC’s decision to split the 501 route at the Humber Loop from 5 a.m. to 10 p.m. daily has left one south Etobicoke rider wanting.

Among the 501 route changes, the TTC recently announced a “temporary” route split at Humber Loop on the line, which runs west from Neville Park in the Beach to the Long Branch Loop. That means riders headed either west or east of Humber Loop would get off their streetcar, which would turn around, to board another to continue on their route. The wait time for the next streetcar is now 10 minutes or less.

Jennifer Mozetic has lived in Humber Bay Shores for 10 years. She takes the 501 daily to commute back and forth to work downtown. Mozetic expressed confusion about the temporary nature of the TTC’s route split. She reported four TTC 501 streetcar operators have told her the change will be permanent.

That concerns Mozetic, who like much of the 501 streetcar’s ridership west of the Humber Loop, is travelling only a few more stops to home and would prefer not to switch streetcars. “It’s just brutal on the way home,” Mozetic said. “They make all the people get off a full streetcar. I’m faster walking home the 12 minutes than waiting for another streetcar. I’d get it if the TTC did this 10 years ago. But it’s crazy with all the condos here now. It will be crazier in two years (once all the approved Humber Bay condos are built).”

The TTC added three 501 transfer-free 501 streetcars in the morning rush leaving Long Branch Loop at 7:19, 7:29 and 7:39, which Mozetic takes and confirmed travel through Humber Loop direct to downtown.

TTC spokesperson Brad Ross confirmed earlier this month the TTC’s route split at Humber Bay is subject to revision.

“We want to study it,” he said. “We’ll keep an eye on the route. We’re not making the changes and then walking away from it. We want the flexibility to tweak around the edges as necessary. “Any changes we’d make in the future would be for the better.” Ross acknowledged the route split at Humber Loop is inconvenient.

But he said it is necessary in order to maintain the TTC’s commitment to 10-minute or less service reliability on the 501.

3 thoughts on “Queen 501 split at Humber Loop ‘brutal’ in evening rush: rider

  1. Edward

    Actually, I found this article very one sided.

    For one thing, overall the service west of Humber has improved with its own dedicated streetcar. While it may not run at exactly 10 minute service, it runs a lot better than it did before the split.

    Also, not everyone (myself included) use the streetcar to go downtown, so a downtown streetcar is of no benefit to me.

    When I use the TTC to go downtown, I usually take the subway, which means a ‘two seat’ ride (bus and subway), so it’s no big deal to have to take two streetcars to get downtown.

    Also, I have to take a 10 minute walk to get to the TTC, so I really don’t see what’s wrong with a bit of exercise.

    There are options to fixing the service:

    1) Restore and expand the 508 Lakeshore streetcar during the rush hour (both morning and evening.)

    2) Build the Park Lawn loop, while retaining Humber. Run the 501 Queen car as Park Lawn to Neville Park, and the restored 507 Long Branch from Long Branch to Humber.

  2. Sue Smith

    I love this new improved service at the Humber Loop because I catch the 66 bus there. To and from work, it is much faster for me. But for everyone else having to transfer……. oh well

  3. Lorenzza Lagrotta

    In My opinion, this “split” was the worse idea, ever. I used to take the street car before, but now that we need to do the shuttle at Humber bay, it is impossible to use anymore, specially at Rush hours. We always need to wait more time than usually, the street cars always full of people complaining to wait. Before when I just needed to get just one 501, my trip was pretty faster. I gave up of Street car at Mimico. Spend 1:20 from Park Lawn to Buthurst it’s ridiculous.

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